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Muslim Brotherhood Wants War With Israel


Mohamed Ghanem, one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, calls Egypt to stop pumping gas to Israel and prepare the Egyptian army for a war with it’s eastern neighbor.

Speaking with Iranian television station Al-Alam, Mohamed Ghanem blamed Israel for supporting Hosni Mubarak’s regime. Ghanem also said that the Egyptian police and army won’t be able to stop the Muslim Brotherhood movement.

Update: February 1, 11:15 GMT: Opposition plans to Declare Liberated Zone in one Delta City

A multitude of people is gathering towards the million man march in Cairo. Similar protests are planed in other cities. The strong force in Egypt is the army, that enables the current huge protest.

There are doubts about the loyalty of the Egyptian army to president Mubarak. If the brotherhood takes control over Egypt, it will be very messy from the whole region.

In the meantime, EUR/USD , GBP/USD other pairs have enjoyed the relative calm in the Egyptian crisis and regained most of their losses on Friday. An escalation will send them down, and will strengthen the dollar, yen and Swiss franc.

Update: Israel was attacked by Grad rockets fired from the Gaza. While Israel approved that 800 Egyptian soldiers reinforce the limited forces in Sinai, the Islamic movement Hammas, which is in good ties with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, fired at Israel.

The one-million march is expected on Tuesday in Cairo. Will this be the end of Mubarak?

Update, February 2nd, 22:00 GMT: There’s a rumor that the Obama told the Egyptian army to throw Mubarak. Now.

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99 Comments

  1. prince says:

    YUPE I CAN’T COZ YOU NOT INDICATED THE GOD IS FOR ALL IN THE FIRST MSG YOU SAID ONLY THE GOD OF URS SOO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THT GOD IS FOR EVRY ONE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  2. Hevfsha CORBAN says:

    Yes but HIS chosen Nation are the Hebrew Israelites(the slaves) 1st. then the rest of the world. yu are the inhibitants of the world(outside of Israel) The slaves.

    after all the cleansing of the lands, not Only will HIS chosen Nation bring Offerring being brought out of Our oppression (because of Our ancesters iniquity) but The whole World wil bring it also, Becaue HE will have done, for everyone.
    …but all in still Israel(the slaves) will still be HIS chosen nation.
    “when the sun and moon cannot be no longer held in thier order, then that when the nation Israel(the slaves) will no longer be a notion before ME”

    said by GOD HIMSELF.

    so, what you (as in the world) is to look at Isarel(the slaves) as, “wow, HE did that to HIS OWN chosen nation? HE sent them into slavery and mistreament for many many years jsut because they disobeyed HIS Laws, Statutes, Ordinances & caommandments? Maybe (we) as in the world do as they and follow their GOD, WHO’S GOD of all.

    …what did I tell you about using you speach in the text of YHWH? that is only reserved for HIM this is why WE are coming to make an UNDERSTANDING.
    you men have lost respect.

  3. Hevfsha CORBAN says:

    again, this is The MESSIAH speaking(the Cross).
    who Daughter Jerusalem in the old, but Mary Magdalene in the New. :)

    I’m the reason there were witch hunts in in the european land 100 years ago.but the liers(jews) stole Our (TRUE Israel’s) identities so instead of looking for a “jewish” woman, they should have been looking for a black One :) and, they were 100 of years too soon. :) :)

    the vicni code is a lie Mary is not dead Shes the deliverer of TRUE Israel(the slaves) you are the witnesses. I suggest you go home and tell your families, and I defenitely dont need you how to tell Me how to do My job.
    http://www.filedby.com/author/egyptraynes/2565798/
    HIS Words not Mine >

    I’m only speaking for your own good, if dont well…

  4. Hephzibah CORBAN says:

    “Sometimes you have to excuse My hand :) but dont allow it to take away from GOD’S message.”

    Hephzibah CORBAN, The Wife of GOD, THE MOST HIGH

  5. Hevfsha CORBAN says:

    Now those who are also reading this thread. Do we seem to have What GOD Speaks unto are these not scoffers that are upon You? those who simply cant understand or losers. And when there area some who have Wisdom these are considered deterrent and shall die. :) I do it witha smile because its just Me.

    I dont answer to anybody..but worms knows of HIM.

    precaustionary measure for those who see. Now I can ridicule you 2 bits…thats also My job.
    “fora 1 time Limited exculsive offer, a milisec you can be on stage!” I have no shame. Lord says? Lord says, ” that She is willing to allow those inside Her Home whoever is willing to cater to Her in?” brilliant children just so very mahvaulus. I would like to thank GOD.

    Because HE tells Me,TO READ THE WORLD AND WITH YOUR LAW AND MY POWER WE CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

    Now I dont know how any of you interpet you gods but I know MY is comining to Dominate all this so why would you stay in pop shit is this not the pop live? really
    no one really know but Me, just admit it its over! man rules nothing it was all From HIM and you worms cant take it. you can start by getting Any Hebrew Man or Woman to ZION(Il.) those who you mistreated for so long brogh them over not only in the states but wherever the boats stopped off. Let Me see that like europe, paris (oh yeah see them haitains are Hebrews also and they did sign on with a false god(ass you all) and that why My Kind kicks ass!) I get it All! whod like to attend The Banquet?
    WE’LL have:
    ice cream&cake
    friends amoungst friends
    people for saviours and!
    My show your not going to wanna miss that!
    …and you know GODS GLORY

    you get to see GOD at works doing things at a timely fashion with Emotions since…HE gots a Wife now! heyyy

    you dont have to be Hebrew to come HE wants as many to see(MR SHOWBOAT AT HIS BEST)but just know Im here to help HIM Decipher

    i run this

  6. Hevfsha CORBAN says:

    oh I forgot of the script that spoke of woman not being permitted to teach man. thats funny

  7. Johnathan says:

    Hah..wow…The exchange with faulty news reporting…. I suppose it should just take it’s news from other news channels directly instead of using sensationalism, but I find it funny how this turned into another arab vs jewish debate, with muslims talking about allah and jews talking about israel and then this “CORBAN” taking most of the page person who keeps preaching to us all about God having some wife and true israel or something, hah.

  8. Hephzibah CORBAN says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_of_the_Apocalypse

    ‘Reconize what is happening ^.
    these worms are miserables and want company.
    they know they already lost everything. and will discourage anyone from the TRUTH.

    My question is(rather you want to admit it or not)do you any of you think that GOD is that unjust?
    Do you think tha GOD will allow whitey(the Romans) to continue with their iniquites? as with the world

    But whitey needs to understand that they were just used. america is in the same postion as egypt when Our GOD delivered Us out of Egypt with Moses and the (10 plagues)..but america get it worst.

    you ‘do’ know that Russia is now rejecting americas policy of arms for contries to not arm themselves over 2400? for production and strength. it was suppoesdly should be around 1500 but not to exceed over 2400 for everyone but except…america itself of course.

    its called operation ‘New Start” which I had was spoke about during the end of summer. warning. “do you think that if Russia had a chance to start over under a new system would they?”
    Russia and Iran are friends.
    They are cooking up something very hot.
    China especailly dont want any ties to this mess(& lets not forget China being upset that america took the small value that was left in the dollar and put into gold making it hard for them thier goods).
    N. Korea still dares america to come over. & america aint crazy cause they havent.
    …and lets not forget the rest
    -pirates who are starving, because of europes dumping toxic waste affecting their water, babies & stealing theyr source of goods, shrimps & more. enough! unjustice harlot. I do away with you asap

    wow, you americans sure got dupped into thinking your country was nobel.
    but yu read the news that are controlled by these miserable worms who wants company

    This is why egypt(america) havent sent offensives to dispurse the crowds, beacuse they know that would trigger things much sooner. why be afriad now? the western world wasnt so conservative into committing all of their acts. Thier is a time when all great empires fall, and the Harlots time been has been overdue.

    and GOD? yeah is The REASON why all of these events have taken place.
    and Me? I just wont be only taken over message boards either.
    understand what this is, ‘Reconize what is happening.
    these worms are miserables and want company.
    they know they already lost everything. and will discourage anyone from the TRUTH.

    My question is(rather you want to admit it or not)do you any of you think that GOD is that unjust?
    Do you think tha GOD will allow whitey(the Romans) to continue with their iniquites? as with the world

    But whitey needs to understand that they were just used. america is in the same postion as egypt when Our GOD delivered Us out of Egypt with Moses and the (10 plagues)..but america get it worst.

    you ‘do’ know that Russia is now rejecting americas policy of arms for contries to not arm themselves over 2400? for production and strength. it was suppoesdly should be around 1500 but not to exceed over 2400 for everyone but except…america itself of course.

    its called operation ‘New Start” which I had was spoke about during the end of summer. warning. “do you think that if Russia had a chance to start over under a new system would they?”
    Russia and Iran are friends.
    They are cooking up something very hot.
    China especailly dont deal with any ties to this mess(lets not forget China being upset that america took the small value that was left in the dollar and put into gold making it hard for them thier goods).
    N. Korea still dares america to come over.
    …and lets not forget the rest
    -pirates who are starving, beacuse of europes dumping toxic waste affecting their babies & stealing theyr source of goods from them, shrimps & more.

    wow, you americans sure got dupped into thinking your country was nobel.

    This is why egypt(america) havent sent offensives to dispurse the crowds, beacuse they know that would trigger things much sooner. why be afriad now? the western world wasnt so conservative committing their acts thier is a time when all great empires fall, and the Harlots time been overdue.

    I wont be only taken the over message boards either :)

    and The GOD of Israel? Is the REASON why All these events have taken place

  9. Hephzibah CORBAN says:

    you know you in trouble

  10. Jude Long says:

    I read on http://howlongolord.com/?p=285 how the unrest in Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia and Lebanon are actually being promoted by friends and background supporters of Barak Obama. Is he working behind the scenes? William Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn along with Jodie Evans are only connected to Obama through the past riots in the United States.

  11. George Gype says:

    I catch the articles on howlongolord through a RSS feed. That site is a religious site about prophecy. I don’t think Obama has anything to do with prophecy. However the article posted above does link the Middle Eastern countries to prophecy.

  12. matthew says:

    let me start first by saying Allah means God in arabic God is Allah Allah is God! to put is into terms you can understand we all have one father, muslims,jews and christians, we all trace out hearitage back to father abraham, then we start to seperate God told abraham he will have a son with is wife sarah, she says cant be im to old and told him to sleep with her egyptian slave, which his did and had a son named ishmael, which that is were we seperate, God told abraham that is was to be a son concieved by sarah and behold had a son with his wife and the named his isaac, and from there the Jews and christians fallow the lineage, through isaac and then little further down through isaac, the trus son of abraham, the messianic line from which our lord Jesus was born from and this is when the christians and jews differ, jewish people addmit the yes Jesus was was real but not a true messiah, just a prophet, because from someone to be a messiah in the jewish religion they have to “complete” 3 things and according to jews he only did two and fell short because to them he did not rebuild the temple, which is one of the three, but us christians take his death and resurection after three days as rebulding the temple, not a man made stucture but as in life, because after three days he rose and from that point on the word of God spread with his resurrection after the 3 days which really spread the word of God all across the world,which to me was way more then a building of brick and stone built be men and a quick side note God is not behind all the evil in the world, God is great and the best gift he gave us humans was free will and men are the ones responible for the majority of the evil in the world not God!!!! so there you

  13. matthew says:

    it, we all come from the one father, abraham, and all worship the God he did

  14. Alamin says:

    Thank you Matthew! I so wish more people would accept and understand that we are all from the ONE God. The Prophet Muhammad’s entire mission was to teach the barbaric Arabs this one simple message. In fact the only way you can claim to be a Muslim is to utter and accept the words: “There is No God But God, Muhammad is the Messenger of God”

  15. Hevfsha says:

    :)

    …it aint finished

  16. The Little Horn says:

    Cyrus!

    What are you doing?
    You let western powers control you?
    You let them Dictate whats in your land?

    What happen to the Perisan Legacy?

    What would Darius & Xerxes think of this? Are you not the Son of Cyrus? Those who job is to heap up sinful nations and subdue them. get on your job!

    You have the forward of THE MOST HIGH

    you will succeed Cyrus its been granted

    :) Hevfsha

  17. The Little Horn says:

    ISAIAH 45 <<<<<read very carefully

    1 This is what the LORD says to HIS Anointed,
    to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
    to subdue nations before him
    and to strip kings of their armor,
    to open doors before him
    so that gates will not be shut:
    2 I will go before you
    and will level the mountains[a];
    I will break down gates of bronze
    and cut through bars of iron.
    3 I will give you Hidden Treasures,
    riches stored in Secret Places,
    so that you may know that I am the LORD,
    the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
    4 For the sake of Jacob my servant, (true Israel)the slaves
    of Israel my chosen, I summon you by name
    and bestow on you a title of honor,
    though you do not acknowledge ME.

    ***5 I am the LORD, and there is no other;
    apart from me there is no God.***

    I will strengthen you,
    though you have not acknowledged me,
    6 so that from the rising of the sun
    to the place of its setting
    people may know there is none besides me.

    ***I am the LORD, and there is no other.***

    7 I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, THE LORD, do all these things.

    8 You heavens above, rain down MY righteousness;
    let the clouds shower it down.
    Let the earth open wide,
    let salvation spring up,
    let righteousness flourish with it;
    I, the LORD, have created it.

    9 Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker,

    those who are nothing but potsherds
    among the potsherds on the ground.
    Does the clay say to the potter,
    ‘What are you making?’
    Does your work say,
    ‘The potter has no hands’?
    10 Woe to the one who says to a father,
    ‘What have you begotten?’
    or to a mother,
    ‘What have you brought to birth?’

    11 “This is what the LORD says—
    the Holy One of Israel, and its MAKER:
    Concerning things to come,
    do you question me about my Children,
    or give me orders about the work of ME hands?
    12 It is I who made the earth
    and created mankind on it.
    My own hands stretched out the heavens;
    I marshaled their starry hosts.
    **13 I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness:
    I will make all his ways straight.
    He will rebuild my city
    and set MY exiles free,
    but not for a price or reward,
    says the LORD Almighty.

    14 This is what the LORD says:

    The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush,
    and those tall Sabeans—
    they will come over to You
    and will be Yours;/Mine :)
    they will trudge behind You,
    coming over to You in chains.
    They will bow down before You
    and plead with You, saying,

    ‘Surely GOD is with You, and there is No Other
    there is no other god.’”

    15 Truly you are a GOD who has been hiding HIMSELF,
    the GOD and SAVIOUR of Israel.

    16 All the makers of idols will be put to shame and disgraced;
    they will go off into disgrace together.
    17 But (true)Israel will be saved by the LORD
    with an everlasting salvation;
    you will never be put to shame or disgraced,
    to ages everlasting.

    18 For this is what THE LORD says—
    HE who created the heavens,
    HE IS GOD;
    HE who fashioned and made the earth,
    he founded it;
    HE did not create it to be empty,
    but formed it to be inhabited—
    HE says:

    ***I AM THE LORD,
    AND THERE IS NO OTHER.***

    19 I have not spoken in secret,
    from somewhere in a land of darkness;
    I have not said to Jacob’s descendants,Israel
    ‘Seek me in vain.’
    I, THE LORD, SPEAK THE TRUTH;
    I declare what is right.

    20 “Gather together and come;
    assemble, you fugitives from the nations.
    Ignorant are those who carry about idols of wood,
    ~who pray to gods that cannot save.~

    21 Declare what is to be, present it—
    let them take counsel together.
    Who foretold this long ago,
    who declared it from the distant past?
    Was it not I, the LORD?
    And there is no God apart from ME,
    a righteous GOD and a SAVIOUR;
    there is none but ME.

    22 “Turn to ME and be saved,
    ALL YOU ENDS OF THE EARTH;
    for I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NO OTHER.***

    23 By MYSELF I have sworn,
    MY MOUTH has uttered in all integrity
    a word that will not be revoked:
    Before ME every knee will bow;
    by ME every tongue will swear.
    24 They will say of ME, ‘In the LORD alone
    are deliverance and strength.’”
    All who have raged against HIM
    will come to HIM and be put to shame.
    25 But all the descendants of Israel
    will find deliverance in THE LORD
    and will make their boast in HIM.

    can you find(Anywhere)that Allah created and gave to THE GOD OF ISRAEL?

    No.

  18. The Little Horn says:

    and TRUE Israel is the only nation who GOD gave statues and Laws the rest of you are the inhibitants of the earth idiot matthew you know nothing. all the rest of the world just know they cam from adam.
    Israel can say (We) are from Jacob who OUr GOD named Israel, then 8 great-grandfaters before was Noah, then 9 great-grandfathers before him was Adam. can nobody do that but… Israel(the slaves). you are just the inhibitants of the earth you know like the Philistines and such? or how about your forgein women who My HUSBAND forbits Our Men to maryy because it will water down Our Inheritance that HES Given Us.

    Again, DEUTERONOMY 7:6 2PETER 2:9

    and to recall My memory the 144,000 sealed was consisting of what tribes again?
    Right! TRUE Israel
    shut your punk azz up

  19. The Little Horn says:

    …and you, stop trying to put the blame on Obama becaue you know that america was already corrupt before he got into office.

    in order to become preisdent you have to
    1. be a resident
    2. be at least 35 years
    3.live 14 years in
    4.worshipp the devil

    americaThe Harlot was built in a day and will burned in one hour.

  20. John says:

    Allah is not the god of all the religions, hussain…

    and this is all in the Bible and in the Bible it says that Israel will NEVER be defeated and God NEVER breaks his promises

  21. Little Horn Blow says:

    Right. to the TRUE People of ISRAEL(the slaves):) HE will not break HIS Promises to Us. and in order to do that, HE is about to destroy the Blasphemist country 1st.

    (MAKHARK 14: 58)
    True Israel (We) heard HIM say, I will destroy this temple that is made with human hands, and within ~three days~ I will build another made without hands.

    Right, so My HSBAND will deliver HIS people(the slaves) out of Our opression

    you Whites suuuure loove Misinforming dont cha? :)

    thats why your time has come also:)
    and ya know, this has become most entertaining to Me. all the times you Whites were giving all your support to iz ra ‘ill, who were committing ‘AlltypesofWarCrimes’ And You Knew It! but did nothing but further supported them why?

    Again, Because you Knew That you Had The TRUE House Of Israel In your Midst…But Kept Us As Slaves.

    your time has come,
    Mrs. Magdalene(The Bride)

    http://israelstwelvestarsmsmagdalene.weebly.com/

  22. Little Horn Blow says:

    and all of this ‘is’ in the Our Bible since We are who HE chosed to express HIMSELF through anyway. Our History Book ‘is’ the Bible. and if you know of Our History so much you know that there is no one who knows of HIS HOLINESS more than HIS Bride. So yes HE sent us into opression but now Redemption Season is upon Us and yeah, will no one be able to defeat Us Our KINDOM will stand and be Forevermore.

    stop speaking as you know My HUSBAND, you don’t learn your place

  23. Hefvsha COREY'S Wife says:

    I suggest you all start making preparations to get here in the Midwest to *ZION* which is north from Chicago(Magdala).

    It is about to be the safest place(In The World) to be.
    GOD is with Me. HE will keep ME safe througout All this.
    whoever will be there with Me will also be safe.
    get to ZION!

    these protests will not simmer down, its Contagious
    its suppose to be. Be a friend to the Bride/2Christ at Her Banquet and receive Savation. Come as enemy and get your azz kicked/hey! you will easily be no more.
    You think My HUSBAND will let you come and be a fool? Or what about The TRUE Nation of Israels Army? A bunch of fit Hebrew Niggas carry hundreds&hundreds of years of their Fathers Oppression, and of course who ever else is tired and is willing to side.

    Its My banquet not HIS and Ive been unhappy for a long time. But understand this: those who come under Savation must know they will have to fight. fight against the wickedness that struggle to keep this current worlds order.

    People are tired and are not going to take it anymore.

    :) Protest: –noun
    1. an expression or declaration of objection, disapproval, or dissent, often in opposition to something a person is powerless to prevent or avoid: a protest against increased taxation.

    basically the world is tired of the Satanist and theyre System so get outta here devil we dont want you no mo’.

  24. Hefvsha COREY'S Wife says:

    If any know any TRUE Israelites(the slaves) in ole Blasphemist(iz ra ‘ill)Tell them to get out! now!

    Tell My Sons&Daughters(the slaves) who were scattered there, to remove themselves from that soon to be WasteLand! Soon As possible! tell them to get out! get out Now! http://www.filedby.com/author/egyptraynes/2565798/documents/46803807/

  25. Mrs. CORBAN a.ka. Little Horn says:

    YOU WILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING IVE SUFFERED

  26. Mrs. CORBAN a.ka. Little Horn says:

    you know what I find quite entertaining?
    you are willing to Misguide, Misdirect, Misinform the Masses just to get company, (in your head) to keep your stance. You are what My HUSBAND spoke of. please

    “Popes are no men of GOD, they are willing servants for the Devil” Catholics painted the false pictures of Our GODS WORKS in theyr image, Europeans. Popes are not to be trusted in these lasts days of Satan.

    Neither is False Ministers like Louis Farrakhan. he is a false prophet. If he was truely delivered as one from GOD he would have known that he is an Hebrew Israelite which makes him “a man within TRUE Israel/Christ.
    But insteaed he shakes hands with the Harlots powers portraying himself and misleads his own poeple! this guy is going to die!
    Wheres the connection with the East? how come he doesnt try to difuse the tenion between the misunderstanding about Allah and its people? Because he is a false branch Allah that falsely speaks for The Harlot! whove theyve hired! just to keep GODS people (The Hebrew Israelites/the slaves) out of the know! He works for the Harlot!

    Ive even told his men whos out in the streets passing out his Tainted Info, that hes a False Prophet and his outcome will be quick&short and them who they TRUELY are. farrahkhan is unknown in the East and is Not Taken Seriously.

    It is a high bar to pass in order to be The TRUE CHURCH OF GOD and if you are a Man, that puts you out Automatically. Becaue it is HIS Bride who HE gives not only the world to but also OUR Son/ Man of Peace.

  27. Mrs. CORBAN a.ka. Little Horn says:

    …and further more iz ra ‘ill is not trying to get the Harlot to go to war with them. That is another one of americas cop outs. America knew who they got on&off those boats during the Atlantic Slave trade. They already knew the blasphemist dirty jews(babylonians) told them.

    they knew! so all of this goes hand & hand iz ra’ill goes 1st then the Harlot. stop trying to play damsel america remember your the Harlot

    …and stop trying to whitewash Me without adressing Me ok? just admitt the Bride has been called(Apocalypse) and take your offensives as youve given them.

  28. Malcolm says:

    The information in this article is utter nonsense. The Muslim brotherhood declared that they WILL respect their peace treaty with Israel, will not seek majority in the parliament and will not field a presidential candidate. This article is an example of bad reporting. Please check your sources.

  29. Mrs. CORBAN a.ka. Little Horn says:

    Its time.

    For many years Weve been mistreated. We were forced to believe that we were beneath the lowest and We complied. Even when We simply wanted to be treated as man we were denied, hung, and beaten. This land even allowed its aliens to mistreat Us and after forcibly bearing Our blood, sweat, tears & lives to build this land, are to die with it? No. Weve worked too hard for this land.

    Its time to tell The People of Israel who they Truly are. You cant be a follower of GOD and deny HIS People. It was never meant for you to keep this land. Our GOD gave us into your hands as punishment and now that Our punishment is over, we shall be allotted Our Land. The New TRUE Israel. Capitol, YERUSALEW, THE NEW JERUSALEM

    sincerely, your Nemesis :)

  30. Woman Clothed With The Sun, Moon & Stars says:

    …and never to demean Our brother Malcolm who was viciously killed by uninformed pathetic Hebrews(his own) at their worst because they copped a deal. He is held with nobility & credit, because despite what he learned through that misleading and tricky organization.

    He found more than black&white,TRUTH which was GOD and started to distance himself from that underhanded organization and one of the 7 deadliest showed. I commend him.

    But the System that My HUSBAND designed was just not for him to depict.

    …and as far as anything else thoe who control the medai are thoe who are currently operating Satans dominion and want to kep thing as they are which making them an enemy of GOD.

    ..go check, the Harlot has been accused plenty(other countries) of not providing TRUTH to its people. Blowing situations overboard(diversions) and significantly playing downwards(ignorance). dont trust it, GODS events dot lie man does.